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066 - Audrey Hall: From Cash to Fintech - Brightwell

The Southeast Asian region’s internet economy has hit a key milestone, reaching $100 billion in market capitalization for the first time in 2019. This represents a 39% increase from the previous year. Money is moving in and out of this region in ways never before seen.

Audrey Hall is SVP, Product and Marketing at Brightwell, one of Atlanta’s fastest growing fintech companies

Audrey Hall is SVP, Product and Marketing at Brightwell, one of Atlanta’s fastest growing fintech companies

Audrey and Emily talked about Audrey’s mission at Brightwell, a payments technology company whose fintech solutions serve seafarers on the world’s major cruise Iines including Carnival, Norwegian, and more. We talked about the war on cash in the US and abroad, combatting fraud, and how Brightwell approaches educating users who are mostly unbanked or underbanked. Plus, the relationship between product and marketing.

Audrey Hall

is SVP of Product and Marketing at Brightwell, where she is focused on building financial products that transform global workers’ lives. Previously, Audrey served as VP of Client Strategy at 352, Inc.

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“Our purpose really is to help these underbanked, underserved communities who deserve the same access to the tools that we all have. That they are included in this financial world where You can have your dreams be possible by savings, by thinking about budgeting.” - Audrey Hall

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TOPICS & TIMESTAMPS

1:39 Meet Emily’s guest, Audrey Hall

2:05: What does Brightwell do? 

2:34: Brightwell is a fintech company out of Atlanta. They create financial technology products that serve the specific needs of migrant workers. Strong focus in the maritime industry. They help people send money home to their families and join the digital economy. Digital and financial inclusion.

“When we looked at payments in the cruise industry, it was kind of archaic.”

3:24: On-ship payroll payments are often done in cash. It’s risky and not cost-efficient. Brightwell offers a solution and serves people from 140 different countries around the world. 

4:50: Brightwell’s clients include seafarers on cruise lines such as Norwegian, Carnival, Princess, Aida, Costa and more. 

“The digital economy at large is something we’ve come to expect in the Western world.” - Audrey Hall

5:50: 2 billion people today are unbanked globally

6:05: These users offer tremendous opportunities for financial and corporate expansion, but their needs are unique and are impacted by language barriers, B2C interactions, education levels, and more

6:50: Build trust and empathy with various user groups

7:55: How do ATMs play a part in all this? ATM use is complicated and sometimes risky.

8:50: People are drawn to hard currency and the physicality of cash. Brightwell tries to help users understand why digital funds can be safer for them and their families, while respecting the ways that cash is still important for certain use cases and cultures.

9:25: Countries like Sweden are going cashless. 30% of Americans don’t use any cash in a given week.

9:40: Cash vs Digital. What are the pros and cons of each? How do you manage risk?

11:00: We’re more hesitant to offer up personal information (especially PII) these days. Companies like Brightwell work hard to ensure digital users are protected but fraud is rampant.

12:30: Real talk: Fraud can impact user experience and brand reputation. How do you deal with that? 

“It’s something we will continue to iterate on and find new ways to educate users on.” “Yeah they are going to blame us, but it’s our responsibility to take care of them and make their experience the best it can be.” - Audrey Hall

14:34: Companies should be the guide, not the hero. Base your marketing and messaging around this guiding principle. It’s all about servicing the person who is using your product. 

Each person who works at Brightwell is bought into their core principle and aims to put the user experience first.

Each person who works at Brightwell is bought into their core principle and aims to put the user experience first.

15:05: Brightwell’s core principle: user first. 

16:50: What is the difference between unbanked and underbanked? In the U.S. there are 55 million unbanked individuals

17:37: People depend on cash and keeping those systems in place is equally important as educating them on digital banking services. 

18:19: How has Brightwell transformed itself in the last few years? Adopting more of a startup mindset.

19:20: Product testing: Brightwell works to understand the language and flow that would resonate most with clients based on their one-on-one user experience testing on prototypes (e.g. payment app Brightwell Navigator on Android and iOS)

19:50: “Focus groups are not your friend!”

21:17: Your product and marketing departments should be in constant communication. It will help you find the “why” behind your products. Collaboration is key. 

22:00: What’s next for Brightwell and Audrey?

23:23: Brightwell is launching in the Philippines this year with a physical location.

26:00: Each year Brightwell is iterating and growing. Everyone there is committed to the purpose of the organization.

Audrey’s podcast recommendations: Reply All podcast episode 102 “Long Distance” and 103 “Long Distance, Part II.” It focuses on fraudsters like tech support scams based, suspicious callers, etc, and takes you behind the scenes as they track down an Indian call center that is scamming people. 

Connect with Audrey Hall on LinkedIn and Twitter: @ansianko

Learn more about Brightwell and follow @BrightwellApp on social.

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063 - Michele Arnese: Why Brands Need Sound - Voice Marketing and Beyond

How can brands use sound to connect with customers? As voice technology becomes embedded in consumers’ lives, the sound of your brand will be increasingly important.

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What should your brand sound like on Alexa? Because this is a transitional moment in voice technology, right now there is a real opportunity to be an early adopter, especially for a vertical like FMCG (fast moving consumer goods) as we expect an $80 billion voice commerce market by 2023. 

Bottom line, this is about using sound to connect with customers and strengthen your consistent brand voice.

Guest: Designed in Italy and assembled in Germany, Michele Arnese is a self-driven strategic and creative thinker with a strong entrepreneurial approach. As Global CEO and Creative Director of amp, in the field of audio branding, he's considered one of the world's foremost experts, with clients including Mastercard, Mercedes, Porsche, BBVA, Geberit, BMW, UniCredit, MINI, Triumph, The Linde Group and a range of international awards for his work with amp.

Sound DNA by amp

Sound DNA by amp

Topics and Timestamps:

03:00 Michele’s story from management consulting and music to founding amp a decade ago

04:10 Why sonic branding matters. First: think of James Bond as a sonic identity: this is key to the elevator pitch to convince clients of the importance of sonic branding. Close your eyes and listen to Shirley Bassey or Adele. You can see James Bond in your mind.

05:30 Sonic DNA: a core track or melody that translates to all different brand touch points such as video, commercials, transaction sounds

06:00 Sonic logo has been around a long time (famous examples include Intel and T-Mobile). Sonic DNA is a new idea: it’s about ingredients, you can combine differently to create different sonic assets for different touch points (like James Bond has different sounds for Skyfall or other editions).

07:00 Sonic branding must be more flexible and complex than just a jingle

07:15 Mastercard client work: a melody approach to the sonic DNA then developing music for very different touch points including audio visual and digital channels plus global campaigns like 2019 where we did a sonic watermark.

07:50 MasterCard New York restaurant watermark for different soundscapes

08:00 Flexibility and recognition is the payoff for sonic branding, the ROI essentially 

08:15 Budget for visual brand identity with logos (think of Gap or Tropicana logo rebrands) - why don’t we question this but in sonic branding it is harder to get budget

09:00 Music is an old connection to humans (in our brains) but a new discipline for brand strategy. Brands must break through clutter. Voice assistants like Alexa and voice tech introduce an awareness for the need to be recognized in a non-visual environment.

09:40 ROI of sonic branding - amp client UniCredit’s study: client had savings in terms of music production budget and licenses and AV production (able to begin with owned material)

“The Sound of BBVA: Bringing the age of opportunity to everyone. Using the BBVA sound DNA, we developed a holistic audio identity covering all digital and physical spaces. This sonic branding project stands above and beyond the rest, serving as a be…

“The Sound of BBVA: Bringing the age of opportunity to everyone. Using the BBVA sound DNA, we developed a holistic audio identity covering all digital and physical spaces. This sonic branding project stands above and beyond the rest, serving as a benchmark for future audio branding projects.” Case study: amp - BBVA’s sonic branding

11:10 We process sound and music in the limbic system, same place brain stores emotion - this where brands want to be processed, too

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There are a lot of studies that explain the brain statistics, but if you go back to yourself, to your experience: what counts is the association that you get with the brand and the sonic ecosystem. - Michele Arnese

12:00 Michele’s research process to create a sonic mood board through immersion (example: he walks through retail store and listens)

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We create a new dimension of a brand identity. - Michele Arnese

13:00 Some of amp’s clients are in banking and financial services, also many in auto industry and FMCG

13:30 His financial sector work began with UniCredit then BBVA - this sector had a need for greater human connection between brand and customers

THE SOUND OF PORSCHE. AN ENTIRELY NEW, INTERACTIVE BRAND EXPERIENCE.“Tasked to create an audio branding concept for the Porsche sound lab, we created an interactive sound installation featuring soundscapes and video mapping techniques.” - amp

THE SOUND OF PORSCHE. AN ENTIRELY NEW, INTERACTIVE BRAND EXPERIENCE.

“Tasked to create an audio branding concept for the Porsche sound lab, we created an interactive sound installation featuring soundscapes and video mapping techniques.” - amp

13:50: Some banking and financial brands realized that the human connection was missing and music could help. This is why we have seen an explosion of cases [for sonic branding] in the financial industry. - Michele

14:20 Financial services is changing greatly in last five years: fewer branches and physical location, but need to instill trust and physical security. Must compensate for changing landscape of brand experience with something that can establish the connection like music.

15:20 What is the function of the Mastercard Acceptance sound (the sound indicating that payment is successful)?

15:50 Acceptance sound for credit card company is to 1) establish trust and 2) reiterate brand recognition

16:30 How does a brand apply sonic branding to voice as with Alexa or Google Assistant? Understand the translation of the brand into sonic attributes.

17:00 How to create a voice profile for a brand (attributes such as introverted or extroverted must be heard in the brand voice)

18:10 Alexa Skills for a brand: sound and voice can join together

19:10 Understand the North Star of a brand - sonic branding helps examine this

20:00 There is a set of feelings, tonalities, impacts which must be the same for the entire brand. Define the borders. Consistency is key.

20:30 How will conversation between brand and consumers change as voice assistants have greater impact on marketing and consumer touch points?

21:00 “We have said that brands are dying on Alexa. But now there is a journey for brands to get back to more connection in creating, for example, voice avatars.”

21:45 We are in a transition phase regarding branded voice experiences

22:00 Brands who’ve done their homework will succeed in voice - establishing sonic branding is first step

22:30 Opportunity exists to be first brand to define acoustic domain in many sectors: look at FMCG, blue ocean here (with $80 billion voice commerce market in 2023, fast moving consumer goods can take advantage and be first movers with sound branding)

25:00 Music Journalism Insider: News, job listings, and interviews from the world of music journalism. Edited by Todd L. Burns.

Learn more - articles:

  1. Drawing on the findings of the Best Audio Brands Ranking, Michele Arnese discusses with Paul Armstrong in an interview for Forbes what it takes to create a killer sonic brand that delivers and delves into the implications for big and small companies. - These Are the World’s Best Sonic Brands by Paul Armstrong, Forbes

  2. WHAT SHOULD A BRAND SOUND LIKE? Why Mastercard, AT&T and others are composing sonic logos they hope will hit all the right notes - AdAge

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050 - TD Ameritrade Alexa Skills: Brevity, Levity, and Familiarity - Dani Fava

Voice is a powerful medium for a relationship-centric business like wealth management. In fact, one of the Flash Briefings that Dani Fava launched, TD Ameritrade for Advisors, just won the Custodians: Thought Leadership category of the 2019 Wealth Management Industry Awards. This daily briefing provides RIAs and financial advisors with tips on running their business and helping clients invest.

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TD Ameritrade for Advisors is the award-winning Flash Briefing Dani Fava launched for RIAs and financial advisors (Institutional)

TD Ameritrade for Advisors is the award-winning Flash Briefing Dani Fava launched for RIAs and financial advisors (Institutional)

Hear about Dani's experience launching Alexa Flash Briefing skills for TD Ameritrade. With apps across voice assistants like Alexa and Google on both on the institutional and brokerage (retail) sides of their business, TD Ameritrade is a leader in voice for the banking category. And as Director of Innovation, Dani is leading that charge!

Dani Fava, Director, Institutional Innovation, TD Ameritrade

Dani Fava, Director, Institutional Innovation, TD Ameritrade

Plus Dani shared one financial advisor’s emotionally moving story about how the TD Ameritrade Alexa skill empowered a longtime client to once again feel control over her finances through voice.

TD Ameritrade Alexa Skill features market updates, account summary, and place a trade

TD Ameritrade Alexa Skill features market updates, account summary, and place a trade

Powerful Banking and Trading Skill: TD Ameritrade is the first company ever to create an Alexa Skill where you can place trades with just your voice.

You can enable the skill and get started by saying, “Alexa, ask TD Ameritrade…”

Stay updated on the markets, and after you link your TD Ameritrade account, get updates on your balances, positions, and more.The TD Ameritrade skill provides quotes for all U.S.-traded stocks, ETFs, mutual funds, and major U.S. indices, which amounts to over 75,000 securities.

Latest news: TD Ameritrade announced that it has launched a new Google Assistant Action to complement their existing Alexa skill.

Starting today, once authenticated, TD Ameritrade clients can simply ask their Assistant by saying ‘Hey Google, check my TD Ameritrade portfolio’ to gain insight into their current holdings, hands-free,” according to the announcement.

The new Action offers a number of features such as:

  • Ask for a market update

  • Find out how a sector (such as Technology) is doing

  • Get your account balance

  • Find out how your portfolio is performing

TD Ameritrade launched a new Google Action in September 2019

TD Ameritrade launched a new Google Action in September 2019

Get in Touch with Dani Fava:

Twitter: @Dani_FavaTDA

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